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"On average, individual Democrats in the California Legislature voted with the majority of their party or abstained 99 times out of 100 this session. Republicans, on average, voted with the majority of their party or abstained 96 out of every 100 times."
www.sacbee.com/topstories...297069.html
are we voting for the person? or are we just picking an "R" or a "D"? I imagine the 99/100 Democrat loyalty appeals to a certain element on tribe. but is this good?
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Re: California lawmakers rarely defy party lines, analysis finds
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 8:39 PMjust visualize little one's and zero's dancing across your retina. . .then drinks some retsina. . .of course they are partisan, they are party members. . .
we need to break out of this snare and build a new paradigm. . .slough off the old parties like 1999. . . -
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Re: California lawmakers rarely defy party lines, analysis finds
Mon, November 2, 2009 - 7:50 PM
the article goes a little beyond the obvious. they demonstrate that the political bullshit that is fucking the state began about ten years ago. as opposed to the 70's when the budget was usually ready on time. the problems coincide with gerrymandering and term limits.
this ties in with the article I linked to that exposes the fact that had the Governor attempted to fairly draw up Congressional districts, the party bosses would have opposed it. which demonstrates how the two parties are subverting the democratic process. but the Democrats run the show in California, so it's OK with most of the people that post on tribe. -
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Re: California lawmakers rarely defy party lines, analysis finds
Tue, November 3, 2009 - 3:54 PMIt would be nice to get the gerrymandering eliminated, so that the real people were represented, but the only way that could happen would be by referendum. The hacks in Sacramento would never do it. As for the party line voting, isn't this what the voters want? As an example, let's say you vote for a Republican and he wins, goes to Sacramento, D.C. or whatever, and votes pure Democrat Liberal. Is that what you sent him there to do? In the unlikely event that anyone I vote for ever wins, and we send a Libertarian to the legislature, and he votes "yea" on every spending bill that comes down the tube, I would be pissed. But I do agree that the two parties are subverting the process. It's just a bit more subverted in California than some other places because the Democrats have been in power so long. -
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Re: California lawmakers rarely defy party lines, analysis finds
Tue, November 3, 2009 - 10:53 PM>> But I do agree that the two parties are subverting the process. It's just a bit more subverted in California than some other places because the Democrats have been in power so long. <<
it just amazes me how people are sold on the idea that either party represents their best interests. or how it could possibly good for the average schmoe to allow the "ruling party" to draw up districts.
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