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>> The victim, a student, remained hospitalized Monday with non-life-threatening injuries. Patrol officers broke up the open-air sex assault just before midnight, arresting 19-year-old Manuel Ortega as he ran from the crime scene, they say.
"She was raped, beaten, robbed and dehumanized by several suspects who were obviously OK enough with it to behave that way in each other's presence," said Lt. Mark Gagan, a patrol supervisor in the city's Northern Policing District. "What makes it even more disturbing is the presence of others. People came by, saw what was happening, and failed to report it." <<
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Tue, October 27, 2009 - 12:03 AMwhat can you even say about that?
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Tue, October 27, 2009 - 2:47 AMwhy 'richmond'? -
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Tue, October 27, 2009 - 7:20 AMHappened in Richmond, CA. One of the craziest cities I'm aware of in northern CA. There's an anti-snitch culture heavily engrained there. Very prison/gangsta/terrorist, you talk, they kill you. This is why no passerby did anything, I'd imagine. Either that or its the same big city phenomena where people just look on while someone pleads for help, and gets none. Or a mix of both. -
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Tue, October 27, 2009 - 8:42 PM
>> There's an anti-snitch culture heavily engrained there. Very prison/gangsta/terrorist, you talk, they kill you. <<
kind of puts all this blather about "Islamofascism" into perspective. the world is full of stupid, mean assholes. -
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Tue, October 27, 2009 - 9:50 PMour youth culture is pretty screwed up, just a reflection of the whole. . .we need some samurai to come take things in hand. .
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Wed, October 28, 2009 - 6:45 AM************"She was raped, beaten, robbed and dehumanized **********
I always like the dehumanizing part best. -
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Thu, October 29, 2009 - 10:52 PM
any observations on this one? any reflections on previous issues that galvanized communities... juxtaposed with some poor kid that got gangraped? do you think the hatecrime legislation is going to help at all on this?
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the victim probably wasn't a minority. you know she wasn't black. obviously, it's wrong for the color of the victim to motivate an act of violence. but it also seems to motivate how outrage is transmitted through the media. am I wrong? -
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Thu, October 29, 2009 - 11:22 PM
another observation. even if the victim were Mexican, no one is going to give a shit. because the offenders are Mexican. this would only be discussed on tribe if the perps were white.
remember that crazy asshole that blew away four cops in Oakland. and remember on tribe how the usual idiots focused on the cops and the system rather than allow a single criticism of the perp. then it came out that the guy raped some poor 12 yo kid. who was probably black. and the usual nothings continued to focus on everything else. and remember how at least fifty or so idiots in Oakland came out to eulogize the rapist/murderer. and not one fucking word for the poor little girl that was ruined by that asshole.
but there was a gang rape about a year ago in Richmond that did catch everyone's ire. and rightfully so. but let's be honest, the only reason that the tribe nothings cared was because the victim was a lesbian. this time it's just some faceless 15 yo kid. so it doesn't matter.
so face it. the only time the loser-left gives a shit is when the perp is white. every histrionic fit and expression of fake outrage is calculated to undermine the man. otherwise, it is simply ignored. just poke around tribe. the "fuck you" in the letter to Ammiano got a better run than this story. because they don't care. some idiot birther in Halifax will generate more traffic.
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Fri, October 30, 2009 - 11:09 AMAnd there are still people that are against capital punishment. -
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Fri, October 30, 2009 - 7:03 PM
the news coverage is interesting today. I guess there will be a move at the high school to have classes to inform students about how to act towards each other. probably an opportunity to employ some feminist to brow beat a bunch of young men that are no risk to anyone. the usual CYA by local officials to convince people that are doing something when they aren't.
you aren't going to hear much about the perps. if you do, it will be a cock up. which means you probably have illegals involved. probably with records that weren't followed up on. the focus will deliberately be diverted to "misconceptions about the community" and "training" for low-risk youth.
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Fri, October 30, 2009 - 8:53 PM"I guess there will be a move at the high school to have classes to inform students about how to act towards each other."
Yeah, because nobody ever told them it is wrong to rape girls. So it's not their fault.
If the perps were muslims, they could just use the excuse that she left the house unescorted, and had to be taught a lesson. -
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Sat, October 31, 2009 - 12:39 PM
it's a show. you need to scold a bunch of people that pose absolutely no risk in order to make it seem that we're addressing the policies that are contributing to the violence.
which really gets at some liberal policies. lots of these things are supported by affluent white kids that don't have to deal with the consequences. except in rare cases that crop up in universities that are close to troubled spots. -
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 2:03 PM
"Her face was purple and blue and she wasn't moving when they finished and ran," said Eraclio Lopez, 23, who lives nearby and ran over when the police cars rolled up.
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Mon, November 2, 2009 - 2:04 PMI'm glad somebody had such large balls as to run over as the police cars rolled up. -
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Mon, November 2, 2009 - 7:45 PM
hey. at least the kid called the cops and showed some concern. which evolutionarily puts him light years ahead of the losers that watched and did nothing. -
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Re: wtf is wrong in Richmond?
Tue, November 3, 2009 - 3:44 PMI think one of the most disgusting parts of the story is that the cops are looking for evidence on YouTube and other picture and video sites. Which I assume means they have information that some of the scum that watched, not only watched, but got out their phones to record the "fun." Not only that, but they are stupid enough to post it online. Well, at least it might help in prosecuting more of the bastards. I hope they get gangraped in prison.
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