hatred accomplishes nothing.

left or right, Obama is way to close to organized labor and it's having a very negative result. that and his tendency to advocate a government solution for all of life's problems. other than that, he's every bit as inept and unqualified as the last guy.

Centrist?

Surly you jest.


Besides it's not personal it's political.
If Stumbles would see the light and stop trying to take the nation Marxist I'd prolly like the hell out of him.
Well there is that humongous ego he's sporting and then the chip on his shoulder. But other than that he's probably OK.


Nudge me when he turns away from communism.

What I thing you don't see Malvado, is that the further left the left goes the less left it all seems to the people who thinkof themselves as being left.

From the position of one whose politics were not moving either to one side or the other the concept of "center" would be moving further and further left or right all the time depending on who was trying to claim it .

And of course that simple sounding statement is complicated by where in time that "one whose politics were not moving" chose to nail their peg.
Is it the 1920s, the '30s, the '40s, the '50s, the '60s, the '70ss the '80s, etc and from which side of the aisle was that person coming when they drove their "center" nail in?

It's not so easy. And to a great many people statements like the one you made in your top post just seem like a lot of self serving lies.
People who pegged their "center" marker at some other point in history will see the plain falsity of your words while people who pegged their "center" marker as you have will agree with you completely and wonder why those other people have such a problem.

And I rather suspect that it's the left whose steady march off to communism since the 1960s has caused the right to become more hard line and inflexible.

Think of it this way:
TUG-O-WAR
if your team starts pulling really hard then my team has to do likewise.
If your team gets some muscle bound brute to join your ranks then, so does my team have to get a muscle bound brute.
And off into the furthest reaches of extremism go the fringes of each party.

Your team's fringe has embraced the most extreme of Marxism and communism and fascism.
And you - being part of that fringe think it's normal even sort of mildly centrist.

My team' fringe has embraced rabid fundamental Christianity and exclusivity and fascism.
And me - not being part of that extreme - would very much like to offer Ronald Reagan's deepest most heartfelt apologies for stealing the Christians away from the Democrat party and give them back to you guys.

There~!! Now the Christians are yours. You figure out what to do with them.